August 21, 2014.
Mr Gordon Lewis
Traffic Camera Commissioner
Dear Mr Lewis.
It seems to me that your statistic that 69% of riders who 
are photographed by your traffic cameras have prosecutions dropped is less than 
credible if you imply that this is because motorcycles have no front number 
plates. Can you explain this statistic for our members/readers 
please.
It also seems to me that if, over the 10 months of your 
latest survey, the number of riders photographed by your traffic cameras was 
down 30% and the number of riders was up around 25% then an improvement in rider 
behaviour is indicated. Is this a reasonable assumption?
A couple of observations. I know of nowhere in the world 
that requires front number plates on motorcycles & scooters. I know of no 
manufacturer that designs machines to display front plates. How can you justify 
a tiny market like Victoria, that no longer manufactures motorcycles or scooters 
(or many vehicles of any kind) telling the rest of the world how to build 
bikes?
It was the speed camera industry that put the cameras in 
facing the wrong way, not us.
Motorcycle & scooter riders more than pay their way on our 
roads being taxed/charged as much as a large car for registration and CTP and 
the unfair TAC tax. See recommendation 25 in the report from the 2012 
Parliamentary Inquiry. www.parliament.vic.gov.au/rsc/inquiry/293 
To say that we do not want front number plates on our bikes to avoid fines is 
wrong. The vast majority of the 326,000 Victorians licenced to ride motorcycles 
& scooters are law-abiding citizens.
Please note that the Parliamentary Inquiry did NOT recommend 
front ID for motorcycles or scooters.
It is the opinion of most of the riders we are in contact with 
that a major road safety improvement, particularly for vulnerable road users, 
would be more uniformed police on our roads rather than more traffic cameras. 
Car driver error causes most pedestrian, bicycle and powered two-wheeler 
casualties in this state.
Damien Codognotto OAM
Spokesman
Independent Riders Group
Melbourne 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 
2014 7:59 AM
Subject: RE:Cameras and front 
plates
Damien
Saw your 
interview last night.  Can you please ask for the figures to be 
justified?
They said that 
69.9% (last time it was 70% - 69.9 sounds more legitimate) of all riders who are 
booked for speeding get away because there is no front number plate.  That means 
that only 30% of all cameras are shooting rear plates.  Well all the red light 
cameras and all the mobile cameras and all the Eastlink/Citilink tolls and most 
of the cameras mounted in police cars shoot the rear number plate.  I think this 
just leaves the fixed cameras on the freeways.  This means there must be a 
phenomenal number of riders speeding on freeways if they make up 70%.  Simplest 
solution is change the cameras on the freeways to shoot front and 
back.
Also another 
reason against front number plates on current bikes is the cost to riders to 
have them mounted and then put in the electrics for a 
light.
C
From: DAMIEN 
CODOGNOTTO OAM [mailto:d.codognotto.oam@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2014 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: RE:Cameras and front plates
Sent: Thursday, 21 August 2014 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: RE:Cameras and front plates
G'day 
C.
As I understand it, 
and I'm no statistician, the 69% figure represents all motorcycle & 
scooter traffic photos that are rejected. Only part of that figure is because 
the camera faced the front of the bike. 
And, in the 10 months 
of the survey total bike photos were down 30% while the number of bikes on our 
roads went up 25%. That indicates improved rider 
behaviour.
Unfortunately we do 
not see improved bureaucratic behaviour by Camera Commissioner Gordon Lewis. It 
seems to me he has selected statistics to suit the anti-motorcycle culture in 
VicRoads/TAC/police.
I'll put your request 
for justification of the camera survey's bike figures on facebook and the blog 
if you like. I can remove your ID and pass any responses on to you. On the other 
hand we could plug the Herb & Chilli Festival. 
Good to hear from 
you.
Damien
IRG
Thanks 
Damien
I think if we 
all ask this same question there is a chance the media or someone might pick up 
on it.
Please put the 
post on Facebook.  I will ask the same question on my 
page.
I am sending 
this question to 3AW and anyone else I can think of as I personally have no 
problem with front plates.  I don't want to have to spend the money and I hate 
misuse of statistics.
C
G'day again 
C.
The Independent 
Riders Group and most motorcycle & scooter organisations I know of have a 
major problem with front number plates/stickers. The short explanation is front 
ID does little or nothing for bikes safety inspite of projections by police and 
the camera commissioner. Front plates will cost riders money to install and can 
make insurance claims greater so we pay higher premiums. (Swann Insurance). 
Front plates are a revenue raiser for departments with an antibike culture. No 
where else in the world, as far as I know, requires front ID for motorcycles 
& scooters. 
If anyone knows 
a place where front ID for bikes is still required by law, please let me 
know.
And, maybe 
worst of all, if they can get front plates made law in Victoria on such 
obviously "cherry picked" stats, what's next? They are already going for 
mandatory dayglo vests and boots and a totally unnecessary lights-on law which 
may change our legal standing after a car smashes into us and the driver says. 
"Sorry mate, I did not see you."
Damien
IRG
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