Hi all,
This
was one of the worst accident scenes a police officer or emergency service
worker would want to attend! (Scroll down to see the blog entry ANOTHER RIDER DIES AT A WRB SITE. DC)
The officer first on scene had the sad "Duty" to
describe the crash scene to the online operator to report to Vicpol
Metro.
This was unforgettable to me listening to our Emergency services
channel.
Sadly we can't change the past but we can direct the future by
introducing safer road systems for vulnerable road users.
It is crucial that accident scenes have priority in setting up Traffic
Management Points (TMPs). Crash scenes must be secured from contamination so reliable data can be collected. In
this case some heavy vehicles where sent through the crash site from the
Bombala end, interfering with the officers' duty at the the scene.
The time between a crash and crash investigation members attending must be addressed! It would have been several hours before appropriately trained officers could get there. Surely we can deliver the team using Air 900 for crash scenes where distance is a major factor!
(The parliamentary inquiry into motorcycle & scooter safety mentions both WRB and the way Victoria collects crash site data in its' recommendations. DC)
www.parliament.vic.gov.au/rsc/inquiries/article/1409
In saying this my thanks
goes to the local officer at the scene for his great work in what was a horrible
accident scene.
WRB should not be on roads frequently used by motorcyclists. WRB kills & has done on more than one
occasion.
Regards
Dale Robert Maggs
Mob
0432 776 458
@convictstock
Independent Riders Group
Sunday, 24 February 2013
TAC ASKED TO SPEAK AT FAIR GO RUN
Ms JANET DORE
CEO
TRANSPORT ACCIDENT COMMISSION
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Dear Ms Dore.
The Independent Riders Group strongly supports Motorcycling Australia
and the Victorian Motorcycle Council by calling for The Ride media
campaign to be withdrawn immediately and never used again.
The IRG thanks Rob Smith of MA and Rob Salvatore of the VMC for their
accurate and timely letters published in the Herald Sun. See attached.
Given your letter justifying the TAC's rerun of the discredited The
Ride campaign, we invite you, or a TAC representative to attend
the 1st FAIR GO RUN on March 16.
The Member of Parliament for Seymour, Cindy McLeish MLA and the Shadow
Minister for Roads & TAC, Luke Donnellan, will address the
assembled motorcycle & scooter riders. This is your opportunity to
explain to the people who pay TAC premiums how The Ride campaign is in
their best interests.
The overwhelming majority of people paying TAC bike premiums and taxes
also pay car premiums so they have a greater vested interest in seeing
their road safety dollar well spent.
Damien Codognotto OAM
Spokesman
The Independent Riders Group
Melbourne
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Friday, 22 February 2013
ANOTHER RIDER DIES AT A WRB SITE.
ANOTHER MOTORCYCLIST DIED HORRIBLY
at a wire rope barrier (WRB) site in Victoria's east.
The Independent Riders' Group offers sincere sympathy to family and loved
ones.
Media was sketchy but as we hear it, on February 21, 2013,
a mature Sydney woman was riding the Monaro Highway from Bombala
to Cann River in Victoria. She was on her way to the Superbikes on
Phillip Island. She did not make it. For some reason she dropped the
a mature Sydney woman was riding the Monaro Highway from Bombala
to Cann River in Victoria. She was on her way to the Superbikes on
Phillip Island. She did not make it. For some reason she dropped the
bike about 27 kms from Cann River and slid into a WRB.
Apparently she had traveled this route to the Supers before, as a pillion,
but this was her first trip on this road as as rider. She got her
probationary licence in November 2012. That may mean she was a novice.
It probably means she had recently completed training courses, her gear
was new and she was riding conservatively and within the speed limit.
It's a while since I rode the Monaro Highway but I thought it was a
fairly safe bike road. Not much WRB up that way then. There's
It's a while since I rode the Monaro Highway but I thought it was a
fairly safe bike road. Not much WRB up that way then. There's
nothing to suggest another vehicle was involved in this crash at this
stage, but the Coroner has not heard the evidence yet.
We are told it was wet. She was riding downhill into a left hand bend.
Perhaps, not knowing the road well, she was going a bit quick for the
We are told it was wet. She was riding downhill into a left hand bend.
Perhaps, not knowing the road well, she was going a bit quick for the
conditions? She dropped the bike and slid across the road. If there
had been no barrier she would probably have slid over a steep
embankment and may have survived.
If there had been a smooth concrete barrier, or w-beam barrier with a
skirt, she may have rolled along it and survived. BUT it was wire rope
barrier (WRB). Barrier posts are the killers. WRB has the most exposed
posts of any barrier system and, as sliding riders usually hit the WRB
posts at a shallow angle, their bodies collide with many WRB posts even
at low speeds. These multiple impacts are killers.
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| WRB site at Ferntree Gully in Victoria where Toby Noble died in 2002. |
As we understand it, this is what happened to the lady from Sydney. She
suffered horrendous injuries from multiple impacts with WRB posts and
cables.
Witnesses said trucks and other traffic were allowed through the crash
site. That would make it difficult for trained investigation officers to
accurately assess the scene. Especially since they probably came from
Melbourne and took several hours to get there. The further from Melbourne
you crash the less likely it is that your crash site will be adequately
assessed. BUT VicRoads will tell you that there is no evidence to suggest
that WRB presents a danger to motorcyclists. Because road authorities don't
do the required research.
Victoria's Transport Accident Commission (TAC) spends a lot of our money
telling all and sundry that riders are responsible for reducing our own
risks on the road. But road authorities have a duty of
care to reduce the risks to road users by providing
a safe, well maintained road environment.
WRB is a hazard to ALL road users because, as well as the threat it presents
to motorcycle & scooter riders, it does not stop large vehicles. There have
been several fatal, cross-over smashes at WRB sites.
do the required research.
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| From the 2005 Victorian Parliamentary Inquiry into crashes involving roadside objects. |
Victoria's Transport Accident Commission (TAC) spends a lot of our money
telling all and sundry that riders are responsible for reducing our own
risks on the road. But road authorities have a duty of
care to reduce the risks to road users by providing
a safe, well maintained road environment.
WRB is a hazard to ALL road users because, as well as the threat it presents
to motorcycle & scooter riders, it does not stop large vehicles. There have
been several fatal, cross-over smashes at WRB sites.
To the best of our knowledge, no report on impact testing of WRB in Australia,
with or without post pads, has been released.
The 2012 inquiry into motorcycle & scooter safety in Victoria recommended
improved crash site data collection to be done by an independent authority.
Recommendations 1, 2 & 3. Recommendations 46 & 47 say VicRoads should update
it's road safety guidelines and specifically mention WRB as an area to study.
The 2012 inquiry into motorcycle & scooter safety in Victoria recommended
improved crash site data collection to be done by an independent authority.
Recommendations 1, 2 & 3. Recommendations 46 & 47 say VicRoads should update
it's road safety guidelines and specifically mention WRB as an area to study.
www.parliament.vic.gov.au/rsc/inquiries/article/1409
Damien Codognotto OAM
Spokesman
Independent Riders' Group
Tel: 03 9846 8621
Wednesday, 20 February 2013
TEMP OZ TV UPDATE
TA
Series 2 Update
Series 2 of Temporary Australians, which was due to air from early March,will now
go to air later in the year. The change will allow the programme to have enough time to finish
the editing within budget.
Everyone at Temporary Australians is looking forward to getting Series 2 on air as soon as possible
so keep an eye on www.temporaryaustralians.com.au for more news
Kind regards,
Series 2 of Temporary Australians, which was due to air from early March,will now
go to air later in the year. The change will allow the programme to have enough time to finish
the editing within budget.
Everyone at Temporary Australians is looking forward to getting Series 2 on air as soon as possible
so keep an eye on www.temporaryaustralians.com.au for more news
Kind regards,
Greg Hirst.
Tuesday, 19 February 2013
FAIR GO RUN - MARCH 16 - T-SHIRTS
$30 each
Limited supply.
Send $30 per shirt plus $5 postage to:
PO Box 3091, Doncaster East, Vic. 3109.
Damien Codognotto OAM
Spokesman
Independent Riders' Group
Melbourne
Limited supply.
Send $30 per shirt plus $5 postage to:
PO Box 3091, Doncaster East, Vic. 3109.
Damien Codognotto OAM
Spokesman
Independent Riders' Group
Melbourne
Sunday, 17 February 2013
DEAR MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT
Independent Riders' Group member Rod Brown has produced a letter for riders to send to their Victorian Members of Parliament. It calls for recommendations from the motorcycle & scooter safety inquiry to be implemented. The government has until June to decide which recommendations to adopt. This is a one in twenty year opportunity. We need thousands of these letters to cross MPs desks. Print it out. Pass it on. Encourage your family and friends to send one.
All you have to do is fill in a date, your details and the MP's details. You will taking an important step in defending your right to ride. Don't wait for others to do it. Write to your MP now.
If you need help finding your MP's details, email me with your location and post code. Eg Geelong 3220 or Wodonga 3690.
Don't forget the 1st FAIR GO RUN on March 16, 2013.
****************************************************
Date
MP
name Your
Address
Street
number and name or PO Box Your phone number
Suburb
VIC Postcode
Dear (insert
MP name),
Support for approval of recommendations made in
the Inquiry into Motorcycle Safety
I am writing to you regarding the recent Parliament Inquiry into
Motorcycle Safety. As you may be aware,
the Committee tabled their report containing 64 recommendations on 12 December
2012. This timely report was based on detailed and sound research into the
safety of vulnerable motorcycle & scooter users.
As a motorcycle rider, improved safety is of
vital importance to me and a key issue in the next State and Federal elections.
I strongly support that the Government needs to commit to approving the recommendations,
which will significantly improve motorcycle safety, resulting in fewer lives
lost, reduced trauma and a huge saving in health costs.
Some of the key recommendations include that:
Ø the motorcycle safety levy
be abolished
Ø the benefits and risks of
filtering as distinct from lane splitting be reviewed with the aim of
introducing filtering in Victoria
Ø an independent office of
road safety data be created
Ø Motorcycle Advisory Group
(MAG) be expanded to include additional representatives from the scooter and
moped, off-road and accredited provider segments of the motorcycling community.
For
the full list of recommendations see: http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/committees/rsc/motorcycle_safety/Media_Releases/Media_Release_-_Inquiry_into_Motorcycle_Safety_-_Recommendations.pdf
Please forward this letter to the Hon, Terry Mulder MP, Minister for Public
Transport and Roads for his attention and a formal response.
Yours
sincerely,
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